Josh Packard on Religion to Reality Podcast
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What if the biggest obstacle to ministry isn’t a lack of resources, programs, or content — but a missing system for actually knowing the people in front of you?
In this bonus episode on Religion to Reality, Dave Plisky and Fr. John Gribowich sit down with Josh Packard, sociologist of religion and co-founder of Future of Faith, for a wide-ranging conversation about one of the most urgent challenges facing the Church today: how to do genuine relational ministry at scale.
Listen to the full episode here: https://religiontoreality.org/podcast/listening-trust-and-the-future-of-faith-with-josh-packard/



